OHV Park Project
Meeting Notes from Environmental Groups 

April 1, 2008

(my comments in red)

(these notes were "taken" by staff, although many times they took no notes and people called them on it over and over. At the second hearing, they asked for volunteeers in some breakout groups, for people to take notes, except for Wolken who did not, but a volunteer came up to do it anyway. In the Cultrural Paleonotology hearing, Amber Jack was constinueously reminded to "write that down")

Cultural Resources Group – approximately 45 people in attendance

Amber Jack introduced herself and gave a brief presentation explaining what had been done so far for cultural resources.  She also introduced Dr. David Hill, an El Paso County (EPC) seasonal employee who has been hired specifically for this project to conduct a cultural resource survey.

The following items were discussed by the group:

Buffalo jumps were brought up and more research needs to be done in this area.

Dr. Kirk Johnson spoke about the bedrock layers on the property that are proposed to have the presence of fossils.  Dr. Johnson is willing to provide EPC additional information including publications for research.  Dr. Johnson is the VP of Research and Collections, and the Chief Curator at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.
Email:  HYPERLINK "mailto:kirk.johnson@dmns.org" kirk.johnson@dmns.org
Phone: 303-370-6448

Fax: 303-331-6492

(watch the tape to see what he really said)


It was recommended that we check with the Colorado Natural Areas program that is run by the state of Colorado, to make the area a state park.  It was also recommended the area be made into a park with guided hikes.

Concern regarding how to ensure that the dirt bikes remain on the trails.  After the presentation a gentleman provided a photographic example, that by placing rocks and other obstacles around the trail, the dirt bikes have no other choice but to stay on the trail.

It was recommended that environmental research (flora, fauna, and cultural), also be conducted on the land that will allow easements through their properties, to get to the proposed OHV park.

One property owner stated that Ms. Boucher (who lives off of Corral Valley Road) has many maps and other information that she will provide to Mr. Wolken.

It was concluded that research would continue, and the public would be provided with additional information at the April 15th meeting.

Wildlife Resources Group – approximately 25 people in attendance

Nancy Prieve began by summarizing the work that had been done to date on the property including the golden eagle meeting with USFWS and CDOW, information gathered from field surveys and results of data searches.

Participants discussed the following:


Concern with the noise having negative affects on the golden eagles.

Concern that the park would eliminate the foraging habitat for the golden eagles so even if the nest is buffered the eagles will still be impacted by loss of hunting territory.

Concerns with other raptors utilizing the property.

Discussion on species (such as bird lists) that minimal or no regulations. (watch the video to see Pyllis Cahill read a list of birds not on the county's list of species)

Trust issues with the County accurately reporting the wildlife concerns.  (no shit)

Why is the County relying primarily on field work as opposed to utilizing existing data and documents?

What will be the Environmental Service Department’s (ESD)  “product” as it relates to Natural Resources and what will be done with that “product?”

Concern with ESD getting accurate assessment of what is out there in such a short time frame and in only one or two seasons.

Concern with downstream pollution/erosion and its affects on some sensitive fish species in Fountain Creek.

Annoyance that access to the property is limited to County employees. 

Specific Species Concerns (beyond what ESD is already addressing):
Prairie dogs and burrowing owls on neighboring properties
A spiny, soft-shelled tortoise living on Waste Management’s property
A few general raptor nest locations given (actually, I gave a very specifi raptor nest location the FWS was not aware of, that is in the video)
Pronghorn
General birds observed on/near the property

A butterfly (info to be provided to Tim)

(this was some of the better and more honest note taking)


To be addressed for April 15:

Raptor Surveys (direction from USFWS and CDOW)

Survey for burrowing owl presence (direction from CDOW)

Additional species noted during field work

Research/address specific species brought up during the meeting

Compile list of federal and state threatened and endangered species and indicate why those species are not of concern on the property (i.e. – lacks proper habitat/not within range, etc.)

Flora Resources Group – approximately 30 people in attendance 
John Powell introduced himself and gave a brief presentation explaining what had been done so far for plant research. 

The following was discussed by the group:    

The primary focus of discussion revolved around the planning process.  

Discussion also included the method used for the plant inventory process. (fiound to be totally inadequate by panel's membership)

This break-out group concluded with the suggestion the Colorado Native Plant Society (CoNPS), Colorado Natural Heritage Program (CNHP) and the Colorado State Park’s Colorado Natural Area program (CNA) be contacted soliciting any reports, information or suggestions they may have available for the Corral Bluffs parcel or adjacent areas.  

This information may include current plant lists or historical studies that have been completed in the past.

It was concluded that research would continue, and the public would be provided with additional information at the April 15th meeting.

Noise Abatement Group – Approximately 35 people in attendance

Tim Wolken welcomed the group.  Wolken reviewed an e-mail from Jerry Abboud from the Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Association regarding the method used by many OHV areas to measure sound from individual motorcycles.   Wolken also reviewed Senate Bill 63 which includes provisions regarding sound measurements for motorcycles.

The group discussed the following:

The group discussed the proposed testing procedures for individual motorcycles.  It was suggested the revolutions per minute (RPM) testing range for each motorcycle be based upon Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) J1287 standards.

The group discussed whether the County's noise ordinance exemption for motorized sports activities would apply for the OHV Park.  Wolken indicated that he would obtain an opinion from the County Attorney's Office.  

The group discussed the possibility of sound meters being utilized placed at the property borders to track ongoing sound emissions.   Wolken indicated that he would research this issue.
The group discussed the timing on testing individual motorcycles.  Wolken indicated the testing requirements will be included in the master plan.

Based on the group discussion, Wolken indicated that he would distribute a draft noise abatement section at the April 15 meeting.